New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If that's what you want to do, then go for it though. One intern who spent last summer at a New York investment bank ⦠(not complaining though), also, being young and able to afford life in manhattan is the shit. [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (6 children), IMO there's always gonna be a need for HR people regardless of the economy. (S&T at a bulge bracket) 8 months of searching later networking did the trick. [–]rae1988 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children). [–]davidrab 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children). Where Stash stands out is its account options: For a ⦠any idea what these positions would be called? these are guys who already have shit due yesterday that they don't want to work on on the weekends. All questions go in Monday Morning catch-all threads. How about an interview? Ask me anything! For example, if planning for the income needs of a spouse is your priority, then you can leverage a $500,000 investment by turning it into a $1.5 million death benefit â payable to your spouse tax-free. The average pass rate for the CFA is around 30% at each level. but ok, i'm curious: what did "you" do before bschool? Don't worry, my fathers one of Canadas top investment managers. If it must remain confidential, you can. Would getting a masters in statistics or mathematical finance help with breaking into the industry? Asymmetrical knowledge between the clients and us. I just set the Guinness World Record for longest distance swim in the ocean on a single breath. I dont have an MBA, it was undergrad bschool. [–]kevstev 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). figuratively: you either work at a fund or a good botique or bb investment bank and make enough that you don't give a shit what your address is for the most part because your firm has a good name, [–]Polite_Werewolf 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). Now, all of these (and others I shan't bore you with) are anecdotal of course, but I was wondering if you had heard anything similar. I also came from a middle of the pack State University. Can you compare the mindset of someone who works literally on Wall Street to someone who works figuratively on Wall Street? [–]Oba-mao 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). Different people assess different stuff, and its built to wear you down. you wouldnt beleive some of the i dont belong at this party/how did i get into this penthouse/i cant believe it workedddd stories, [–]kzhs 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children). Perhaps I'm completely jaded - but this is a myopic representation of "misconceptions." I want to take the money I earn here and start a business doing something I love. Reddit user LitlThisLitlThat's former neighbor never did any yard work. How can you possibly know so many of the "misconceptions" with only a year and a half experience? The Disney movie, Safety, was made based on my time as a Clemson football player. you will kill yourself if you want a 3.9. Some of the large firms will fire you if you don't clear the exams. While working the counter, a man came in and tried to get a refund for a five-year-old gaming console. I was interviewing for an ibanking position during the Fall my senior year of college (I attended a top university as well) at a major bank. However change is slow, and the early years of investment banking are viewed as a right of passage, a hazing that proves your work ethic. I come from upper-mid class Midwestern roots. I personally prefer the real thing. An MD who I had known at the start of my career (but never actually worked for) moved across to Lazard when the [major British] bank he'd worked for downsized significantly. [–]pandadisco 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child). [–]invRice 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). [–]Wbankerthrowaway 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (3 children). People who have a bachelors from nyu,columbia,harvard,etc You Can Now Read Other Peopleâs Banking Horror Stories. [–]spitfire9107 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children). How did you go so young? Why would he be getting capital gains? As such, nobody I knew recieved any offers but, regardless, I'd be interested to know what the issues are nowadays... [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (11 children). Is it higher up than you? [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (18 children). The Lazy Lawnmower. I wonder if the fin guys would have some questions they want answered about it, since it's pretty niche and most people don't know anything about it. I consider the finance & business aspect as what I apply my tech knowledge to. I interviewed there like 6 years ago and the guy I interviewed with was hands down the biggest asshole I've ever met in my life. According to him, the hours were brutal, even for Wall Street. i could have the mods look me up on brokercheck, [–]mziggyb 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children). Lisa Du Jun 20, 2012, 11:39 PM ... and asked them to share their best stories about their worst bosses. Asset management refers to the management of assets that could involve investments like equity, fixed income securities, real estate, global investments, etc. When the American dream equates hard work with success, it is expected that students drool over 100 hour workweeks to work at what they feel is ⦠so understand that people want to help when you are in school but gennerally dont give a fuck once you graduate. Some groups are doing well, but when they want to expand, they are increasingly being told they can get an extra head for their group, but it has to be in a low cost area like india, china, or eastern europe. Alexis Goldstein. But it struck me because this is the third or fourth time I've heard this about Lazard, across multiple groups in very different regions. A 3.0 from a middling school is not going to help you much. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child), [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children), [–]ehs4290 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child), [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children). A friend who works on wall st told me theres only 2 types of people that work on wall st. ya i wanna be a politician. Former Wall Street bad boy Turney Duff confesses 10 of the most outrageous stories of Wall Street excess he's ever heard â or participated in. what you say just doesn't make sense unless you're counting 401k or something as your withholdings/"tax". The guys who don't like obama are gennerally the old school guys, the managing directors or guys who came from conservative families. Thanks. [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (9 children). Then they in a perfect world those very smart IBankers make good money, get out of the game in their 30's rich, spend time with their kids and have a very good idea how to run a business because they had to pick good businesses, [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). hr may have more job security despite the lower pay, [–]spitfire9107 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children), what do you think of human resources management its more in demand than finance right? Asset management firms are concerned with maximizing returns of clientâs assets. These are tax-advantaged programs, sponsored by states, that ⦠How true is this. When I was in high school I worked in construction remodeling kitchens and the such and it was gratifying as fuck to see what I did in a day. Studied finance as a way to protect myself with money when things go to shit. or is finance better? [–]kevstev 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children). Gets destroyed. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children). [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children), [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (2 children). any tips for my friend who has a bachelors in finance from baruch. Another classic business would be mergers and acquisitions, which are a bunch of guys that assist companies buying and merging with others, and also help companies go public. I don't want to steal the IAMA, but one thing people don't understand about modern investment banks is that they are really enormous conglomerates of separate businesses. Just hard to get into because of politics and various other factors. Luckily, as time passes, the 100 hour weeks just blend together and the pain has gone away. Could you elaborate further on hiring practice issues? Successful interns go in with their eyes wide open, knowing that 10 weeks of long hours and potentially menial work could result in a high-paying full time job after university. playing catch up... lucky you BTW I'm looking to make moves, [–]spitfire9107 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children). when a deal is live i'll be in at 830-9 and leave at 10 or 11. im at a small place so its a bit different than the big shops, [–]Icamequicly 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). This comment was generated by a robot! Once they see my resume and see me walk in and see that im not a hot asian girl, im out lol. [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children). The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. I was at a BB in Ny and I thought his life sucked. bottles and models is true but models are kinda annoying and only the guys who have to get bottles to hang out with models want to hang out with models. I'm at a small place so my hours aren't bad unless we have a live deal. Except instead of 3 levels, there are 9 total levels. I think it'd be great to split up the big institutions so all that money tied up in regulatory capital could be poured into the market creating a marketing more willing to invest in risk. [–]parlor_tricks 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children). other than its cool to see wall st on the sign when I come out of the subway not much. There are days i love it and days i hate it like any job, i just get paid more than my friends from high school. He was essentially thanked when he was brought before the house and is now launching a hedgefund. Because most jobs after graduation require two years experience. I've live in a college town and the adds are more popular, which I kind of understand since adderall does pretty much the same thing for MUCH cheaper. There are many misconceptions and may things that are legit fucked up about the industry. This was a guy who was (and remains) extraordinarily talented, the rare chap who actually loves finance and did the job purely for his own enjoyment and satisfaction. I Am Ray Ray McElrathbey. What are the job propsects like for someone from Stanford GSB, Harvard B-school, or Wharton b-school? Annnnnnd this is why I'd choose a state school over a private one. Do you think you are putting the degree to decent use? Well uhh... there is that Lazard intern who hated her job and switched to porn. and seriously, none of your income comes from capital gains? College senior in the city in need of prospects. AMA, http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/13xybd/ive_been_an_investment_banker_working_literally/c78e5xi. I'd rise up with you guys. Great recruiting opportunities if you can get by the stigma that stern kids aren't known for their personality. You clearly did it for the promise of money, and had no idea what you were getting into. To get a job, [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children). To justify their own bloated budgets and hierarchies. what are the risks of hiring someone who may not like it and jump ship in 3-6-9 months. on the same token if an M&A deal causes consolidation in one of the firms then no. Rendered by PID 9339 on r2-app-03241d7cbea327854 at 2021-01-06 12:47:38.785887+00:00 running 15b6a67 country code: US. Those managers can't all invest in the same good ideas (see:diversification) so they need people who bring them good ideas (investment bankers) becuase the fund managers don't have the resources to vet every idea to see if its gonna help their bottom line. It's incredibly expensive to take as well. ahh back in the glory days... [–]D3FSE 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). Oh my god...nothing has made me want to complete the CFA more than having a shot at doing some porn related VC with Veronica Vain... Have a friend in banking there now. you need a good internship in anything finance that summer to get your foot in the door, then the following summer you should aim to be in a division or sector in finance you want, summer post jr year you aim for the firm and team you want and if you do a good job you should be a lock in for an offer. lots of cheating and adderall use, the teachers are very demanding and know their shit. Mass public indifference to taking responsibiliy for elected officials is the crux. ny income the retail guys are the one who call docs, lawyers, your rich neighbor and hawk them for the next penny stock that'll make em rich like on boiler room. it'll cost you like $500 at some of these places and you won't make dick for like 6 months. Heh I've seen associates and analysts flub the CFA. You still have 100,000+ workers out there that lost their jobs and are looking to get back in. I'm more technology oriented so I would be better suited for that. Is partying hard core every weekend with co-workers a necessity to climbing the corporate ladder at the average i-bank? You expect to make mid six figures in five years? Which is more in demand in nyc marketing, hr, finance, or accounting and why? From what I've seen, the investment banking hours of 120+/week that we hear about has some truth to them but are largely told for dramatic effect. I'm currently learning all the programming languages you mentioned, so I feel I should be in good shape. not that I know of. [–]StaffSgtDignam 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child). thanks for clarifying this. They hire very very smart people with lots of experience(for the most part) to manage that money. Do you honestly think a blackberry is better than it's competition? I know of a few of these stories- one guy I know started driving a red bull truck, another guy I met when buying some used furniture off craigslist- he had been laid off by the firm I was working at in the late 90s, and hadn't had real work since, this was in 2006. I currently work in the silicon valley doing tech/finance analysis and just scratch 100k after salary+bonus. 2. yeah im considering an ms in hr management from pace university. Anyone brave enough to plumb the depths of Reddit can find endless testimonials of creepy and outright terrifying events that have seemingly befallen everyone to ever use the Web. How much did you make last year? Now, normally I would write this off as a bad group somewhere- after all, we've all heard similar nightmare stories at some point. It’s a great market. Not gonna do this my whole life. just show you're interested in the field by knowing whats going on in the relevant markets to the T and you should be good. I majored in human resources management do you think thats an in demand field in new york? this is pre-tax. [–]Hosni__Mubarak -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children). And this is just one business, of the many that an IB will have. Survey any group of business students and youâre sure to come by investment banking internship horror stories. I interviewed for mostly S&T roles. so which major do you think has more job opportunities in nyc hr management or finance? It's a funny, quick read about what your first year as an investment bank analyst is really like. Its not that hard to climb the ladder if you work reasonably hard. I think they'll have to bring it back. you can get by with a 3.0 without killing yourself. | Last updated: 2012-12-03 12:17 UTC. [–]Asimoff 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children). They ARE Edward Norton of fight club (outside of the visiting of accident sites, ahah). Aren't you young at 24 to have an MBA? Thats interesting, every time i go to the city coke is the choice pick-me-up. sometimes. my boss was an engineer who worked at GE for years. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. If there was a zombie outbreak, what would be your zombie plan? Lack of knowledge with VBA/C++/SQL and the like are actually disqualifying me from a lot of the trading jobs I could have applied for 5 or 10 years ago. Not gonna do this my whole life. edit: by literally I meant my address is physically on wall street. [–]ironichaos 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child), [–]NYBANKERn00b[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children), i dont know for sure but 150 to start sounds about right to me. Producer, artist mentor & interviewer who literally wrote the book on Hip Hop. the management skill set doesn't really translate to what has become a math intensive job. It helped me immensely during my interview process and definitely plays a factor when i interview and hire people. you can be a prop trader tomorrow at places like T3 or chimera group. fed income tax A few years ago, a certain MD calls his entire team together at Friday afternoon at 3, and spends the next 2-3 hours rambling off random things off the top of his head. In this yearâs class of first-year bankers â known on Wall Street as analysts â 77.5 percent are men, Vettery found. Like I said, the MD I knew who moved over said the incompetence extended to the very top so I'm not sure if even MDs are to blame. What are you doing now if you don't mind my asking? Are you a trader or an actual banker? (Also do note - the arcturial exams I've seen are the Indian ones, and those are an amalgamation of the beasts of hell, the iron man, along with quantum physics. [–]spitfire9107 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (20 children). Are their MDs just seriously incompetent because they definitely have a huge number of rainmakers over there (just take a glance at league tables). [–]rae1988 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children). Is bottles and models true or just what people wish it was? From what I know, it is very very difficult to break into banking at any level. Here's what I'm confused about. You cannot possibly be serious with that spelling of scenarios. nah, the firm i work doesn't really set that up for me. no real sense of community, very cut throat unless you are part of the business frats which are majority asian kids. try to get a feel for what you like. Also, they are the guys who couldn't get jobs at private firms so they had to take regulatory jobs. You've said much more than you understand with this statement. Each boss wants more underlings to add a few inches to the ego (if not figures to the paycheck) so he pushes paperwork up to boss above to show how busy he's been. 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